reciprocity ccdw north carolina and south carolina traveling form ky

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  1. fast20

    fast20 Member

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    i will be traveling from kentucky to south carolina this summer... i have done some research but would like to have some clearer answers..
    TN was awesome getting back with me and my question.. SC gave me a number to call.. no answer... going to try to call NC ... i thought yall on here could help me in the meantime. i know some of these question are common sense, but i would love some input...

    Questions:
    1. im traveling as a passenger... for comfort i would like not to keep my weapon on my body... where can i put it and be legal.. can i put it in a small pack next to me?? other info i may need to know is very welcome.

    2. as the passenger, if driver is pulled over, am i responsible for notifying the leo if he/she does not address me.. should i tell them either way.. which i would if i were driving.

    3. i like to travel with 2 weapons.. one for carry... smaller... and one for house, condo, room defence... the other weapon will be in my luggage.. do i need to lock it a container... do i need to lock the ammo in another container.

    4. if i go to an establishment the prohibits firearms.. how do i store it in the car legally...

    5. is carry in rest areas legal

    6. carry in food establishments that serve alcohol as long as im not partaking in adult beverage.. what if ive left my weapon in the car, i have had a few drinks... the driver is sober (which he also has ccdw) what should i do... i know i can be in possession.. but does having it in the trunk, locked and unloaded count as possession by a person consuming alcohol..(make sense??) just thinking of worse case scenarios...

    7. any crazy knife laws... in ky we have concealed carry deadly weapon... so im covered here for any knife.. some states that i have seen have really crazy knife laws...

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HELP..
    RANDY FAST20
     
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    mlh40324 Well-Known Member

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    lots of good questions! looking forward to see what kind of responses you get. Can you tell us what TN told you when you spoke with them?

    For what it is worth, I always tell LE I have a ccdw and weapon.
     
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    an firearm instructor from nc.. sent this... good info..
    I'll only answer in regards to NC.

    1. You may conceal any place you like inside a vehicle as long as you have a valid concealed carry permit. Just as a safety issue, make sure it's secure enough that you won't lose track of it under heavy breaking or heaven forbid in a collision. If you are carrying in a separate pack you may consider running the seat belt through the strap.

    2. Yes, as a passenger of a vehicle that is being stopped you have a duty to inform. Since the vehicle is being approached, you by being inside the vehicle are being approached. You can handle it a couple of ways, either tell the driver that first thing, to notify the officer that one of the passengers has a concealed carry permit ans is currently carrying. Otherwise, tell the driver that you need to address the officer as soon as he gets to the window and then notify the officer that you have a permit and are currently carrying.

    3. NC doesn't specify how a gun must be secured while traveling but you'd be legally safe by having it unloaded and in a locked container in the trunk. Having it in the passenger compartment may get to be a bit grey if other passengers don't have permits so the trunk is the way to go.

    4. Legal is inside the car. Smart and safer is in a locked box in the trunk.

    5. Yes, unless there is a posted business as part of the rest area but those are few and far between. The restrooms and such are ok for carry in state maintained rest areas.

    6. Carry in restaurants that serve alcohol is permitted unless they are posted. If you leave the gun in the car and partake of a alcoholic beverage the the firearm needs to be stored away from passengers. For NC there is no allowable level of alcohol in the blood. Anything over .000 is bad news if you're carrying concealed. Locked in the trunk would be acceptable.

    7. NC doesn't allow for anything under their concealed carry laws. Ours is a concealed handgun permit. Anything other than a normal folding pocket knife is not permitted concealed. (I won't get into what "normal is but don't think you can get away with a folder that has a 6 inch blade, you'd probably lose that bet. Case law has only found that a folder with a blade length of about 2.5 inches was acceptable) Defiantly no concealed fix blades like neck knifes or boot knifes. Don't bet your freedom on a pocket clip showing counting as not concealed.


    This is just a quick reply so I may have skipped over some things but the link that msgt/ret gave is by far the best most accurate source for laws concerning concealed carry. Handgunlaw.us

    Use this to double check any info you get here. (mine too, I always appreciate a second set of eyes since my typing and brain power sometimes are not in sync.)
     
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    this if from tn...
    In Tennessee you do not have to have a carry permit to have a loaded handgun or long gun in your vehicle (or one you have permission to drive) so long as you are legal to purchase the weapon and you are not otherwise federally prohibited from owning or possessing firearms. Therefore, if one of the drivers does not have a permit but, is old enough to legally purchase one and is not federally prohibited, there would not be an issue.


    If you, for comfort sake, do not wish to have the weapon on you, you may place it in a glove box or other compartment within the vehicle.


    Passengers would not be required to state that they have a handgun carry permit upon stop; however, if requested, they must show their carry permit.


    When parked and the weapon is not on your person, it must be kept from “ordinary observation.” This could be done by putting it in the trunk, clove box, or a container/compartment securely affixed to the motor vehicle.


    Pursuant to Tennessee code Annotated § 39-17-1321:

    Notwithstanding whether a person has a permit issued pursuant to § 39-17-1315 or § 39-17-1351, it is an offense for a person to possess a handgun while under the influence of alcohol or any controlled substance or controlled substance analogue.

    (b) It is an offense for a person to possess a firearm if the person is both:

    (1) Within the confines of an establishment open to the public where liquor, wine or other alcoholic beverages, as defined in § 57-3-101(a)(1)(A), or beer, as defined in § 57-6-102, are served for consumption on the premises; and

    (2) Consuming any alcoholic beverage listed in subdivision (b)(1).

    (c)

    (1) A violation of this section is a Class A misdemeanor.

    (2) In addition to the punishment authorized by subdivision (c)(1), if the violation is of subsection (a), occurs in an establishment described in subdivision (b)(1), and the person has a handgun permit issued pursuant to § 39-17-1351, such permit shall be suspended in accordance with § 39-17-1352 for a period of three (3) years.


    This means you cannot be in possession while intoxicated or consuming alcohol. Weapons may not be accessible by any intoxicated individuals.


    Please let me know if you have any additional questions.


    Thank you,




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    sc info person was not well versed in ccw... but you can carry with you in a pack, fanny pack, purse ect.. in the car... and out...

    if you leave you gun in the car it needs to be in a compartment that is part of the car.. trunk, glove box, console..

    she said passenger must tell leo that you are ccw with permit.. which i would do anyway.. driving or passenger..

    all other info i got from www.Handgunlaw.us
     
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    Excellent info!
    Well Done, Sir.
    Got-R-Did.
     
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    Thanks for spreading the word. These all seem in line with responsible carry. You were right about knives, knife laws might be a little crazy.
     
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    Helpful info since I’m headed to Myrtle Beach in a couple weeks. Thanks!
     
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